tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8617133.post113237393664983468..comments2023-08-25T05:26:49.788-04:00Comments on The Grape's Vine: Vatican: Intelligent Design is Not ScienceKannafoothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04548556572562266584noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8617133.post-1132685223475540562005-11-22T13:47:00.000-05:002005-11-22T13:47:00.000-05:00Technically speaking, there's nothing against Inte...Technically speaking, there's nothing against Intelligent Design in the Catholic position, though there's no clear endorsement of any particular ID argument except the general claim that beauty and complexity in nature demonstrate design. The Vatican's main concern in the statement on evolution was to state that, while naturalistic explanations are not allowed by Catholic doctrine, special creation that rules out common descent is not mandatory for Catholics. ID opponents and six-day creationists should both equally disagree with that statement.<BR/><BR/>What's funny is that the fellow who left the comment before this one linked to you as someone saying something that contradicts what I just said when I left it in a comment (that he deleted) on his own blog, which is pretty laughable.<BR/><BR/>I do want to say (as someone who knows a little more philosophy of science than most scientists do) that there's plenty of philosophy that gets taught or assumed in the modern day science classroom. ID arguments are not ruled out by the kind of argument they are, because science teachers teach all sorts of metaphysical and epistemological theorizing as science. What might rule them out is if they're bad arguments, but then they should be taught as bad but popular arguments the same way we teach bad but historically influential arguments in other places (e.g. theories of the structure of the atom). Since ID proponents are generally satisfied if the issues are taught (even if taught critically and argued against), I can't see why ID opponents are so up in arms about doing what we do with any other philosophical treatment of a matter in science.Jeremy Piercehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03441308872350317672noreply@blogger.com